What are your thoughts on the Heard/Depp trial? One of my k

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What are your thoughts on the Heard/Depp trial? One of my kids where asking and I have always thought, women rarely lie about abuse. But is this about abuse or him/Johnny Depp using this as a way to publicly paint her as a liar which would then mean he is the good guy. It just seems like such manipulation!

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Scat's picture
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Jun 8

@NCMom, wow, I had no idea she had a small child. The two of them are better off apart, it seems. That was a very volatile relationship for sure.

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Mosaic's picture
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Jul 9

@Mighty_mert
His career was careening out of control before he met her, due to his alcohol and drug abuse, testified to by his longtime agent, his manager (handled all finances) and Pirates producer, Disney (representative testified). These facts were presented at trial with multiple testimonies of those persons via Zoom, i.e., they were all cross-examined. I watched most of the trial. Credible proof of not only his abuse, but his accepting responsibility and apologizing for, and bragging about, and threatening his abuse of Amber, was presented at court, in writing: his writing via texts to her, and to others. Multiple incidents like that. He started hitting her SOON after gaining her love and loyalty, slapping her face thrice on a plane for 'inquiring about his old Winona tattoo, which happened before Amber was born. She should have run then, but domestic violence has a whole psychological dynamic that often prevents that early, decisive action of self-protection against someone who you thought was the love of your life. And it's Johnny Depp.
The power balance in their marriage: him a superstar in late forties, her a rising star in early twenties when they met, is staggering, but it must be noted that she met him because HER STAR was already rising and had been for a decade: that's how she was cast opposite him in Rum Diaries: she had MADE IT to the top where he was. He didn’t get her there: she got herself to that level. She didn't need him at all for her star to keep rising: she had contracts for future movies in the bag already. But she did fall in love, naturally, he was looking good in Rum Diaries days, but, they didn't get together then: first, he went home and left his wife and kids (or she ran him off, sick of his alcoholic behavior poisoning the family, as it does). And, he was already being warned by his agent and mgmt to SHOW UP to his jobs, stop spending so much dough, sell some of the many properties he owned but did not rent out or try to sell: he just bought, bought, bought. Unwise. The real estate market is always a see-saw. He chose to ignore the professional advice he was paying them for. Instead, he latched onto a young, beautiful, ambitious, civic-minded actress (new life!) and when she had the temerity to continue her career and not be his babysitter, he got in her way. He wanted her to stop auditioning for jobs (evidence in court), he freaked out about men she met at work (all of them, testified to by his lifelong best friend and bandmate: a CLOSE friend of 40 years’ time), he was drunk alot, always high, and, we know, there is no love or companionship coming from a drunk or a loadie: it's an empty, cold, loveless relationship. It must have been dark and lonely: to wit, he stuck her in his HORRIBLE downtown LA penthouses, isolated far away from the hum of Hollywood and Beverly Hills life, trees, grass, flowers, wealth, beauty, safety, Hollywood parties: she was not safe to walk outdoors downtown! It’s a boring, lifeless, colorless, unpopulated, hot, treeless, godawful part of L.A., meanwhile, he spent HIS time 'rehearsing' (getting loaded) over at his central Hollywood off Sunset enclave of five or six mansions that he owned ALL of! Well, that’s lonely. He told her 'bring your friends, your sister, they can live in the other apartments', a thinly-veiled attempt to keep her downtown, keep her isolated, her hands tied. She was a young, vivacious woman whom many other men would be naturally attracted to, who surely gave her attention, and when you're in a loveless marriage, people feel that vibe of emotional hunger, and maybe gave her attention. It's not REAL hard to fall into the arms of a loving person when you’re living your life in a lead-lined sarcophagus. If she did, I certainly don't blame her: though there was no PROOF of 'infidelity' on her part, just socializing. Meanwhile, he'd disappear with no explanation for days. These facts were presented in evidence in the trial. It was also presented in court by a social media analyst that Depp's NY lawyer DID in fact HIRE (paid) a bot campaign to smear her in social media, still happening today. He paid this bot force to smear her, and, the JURY was not sequestered at all: they went home every night (to their computers, television, opinionated family members), and even had a ten day break from the trial and certainly were exposed to the effects if not the smear campaign itself, like if they so much as opened fb, twitter, etc. He made around 60 MILLION dollars during their marriage: she was ENTITLED to half of THAT under California community property laws. Under pressures we cannot possibly understand, she accepted a settlement of a mere $7 million--$23 million less than she was entitled to without so much as an argument, WHICH she had earmarked for charity! She wasn’t even going to get ONE THIN DIME for her bank account, but ending their marriage was what she wanted and not ‘his money’. But then, he sued her for $50 million--as if anything she (WITH the guidance of the ACLU lawyers) said about her life while she was with him (tabloids and tv were doing that like CRAZY while they were still together and it was not her fault when he didn't show up for work) had caused the downward spiral of his career that had already been happening. The defamation he claimed is negligible as it was done with the strong hand of the ACLU: a group of LAWYERS, who would surely know how to word things so as NOT to defame anyone alluded to in the piece, drafted for her signature and publication in THEIR newsletter. That they were not at least named as co-defendents in Depp's lawsuit is highly questionable, it reeks of conspiracy. So she could not pay the whole pledge yet, though she maintains that she will in the future, which is how the pledge was to be made: over time.
The recordings of her accepting any culpability for 'abusing him' was her reacting to being hit, hurt, verbally abused, having to clean up his soiled body and clothing after several times of his passing out and ‘involuntarily’ relieving his bladder AND his bowels in their house. And, once, being afraid he was going to hurt her sister. I watched the trial. These facts were all presented, the judge's choices were questionable to the point that her professional colleagues have remarked on it. He bought the win with the massive bot campaign and his choreographed, high-drama, 'red carpet style' entrances and exits from the courtroom. I am skilled in analyzing body language, formally trained. She didn’t lie on the stand. He did.

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Mosaic's picture
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Jul 9

@Mighty_mert Almost every thing you have claimed here misrepresents the facts of the case. "she would" this and that, plural. Just not true. I did watch the whole trial... just not true. When 'a lady' admits to name calling ... and cheating..." but did she say she cheated? No, she did not, but if my husband was a blackout drunk in year one, got violent, was demonstrably jealous and insecure and accusing me of infidelity when I'm trying to pursue my career auditioning with PEOPLE, I'd be getting frustrated, angry. I know the feeling of jealousy in that situation, I was married to an actor and it WAS scary when he was auditioning with beautiful women, but I took MYSELF to a therapist over MY jealousy, I didn't not attack my husband, though I did break a few household items that I was the owner of--my tchotchkies, not his. All female victims of domestic or other violence do not cower or hold their head down, you know why? Because they have nothing to be ashamed of.

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